Hm,
Yeah, our family went to the Detroit one and Holt. Now it's Belleville.
Didn't realize there were so many here that are in Michigan.
Good to know.
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i spent the better part of my witness career going there twice a year.
anyone familiar?
Hm,
Yeah, our family went to the Detroit one and Holt. Now it's Belleville.
Didn't realize there were so many here that are in Michigan.
Good to know.
aaaaaagggghhhhh!!!
thats how i feel at the mo!!!
why is it that no matter how hard you try life still sh**s on you!!!!!
Don't know where you're at with your jw-ism.
I really agree with Sherry.
Open yourself up to new experiences.
Look around and take in the surroundings as if you are in completely new territory...
Because, really you are.
Does God care about you, etc. etc.
Don't give up on your quest.
peace and blessings
BlackSwan
i own five tarot card decks, and use them often.
not so often that i live my life by them, but enough.
one deck is one i use more then others, as i feel more of a connection with the cards.
I own 1 deck, The Fey tarot. Do my own readings when I need a little bit of direction.
I tend to think that that which people believe is "supernatural" is not so supernatural, more a part of a world we're still learning to understand.
So...yeah, I'd let ya do a reading.
well i am new to the board, i have faded away from the truth lies about 6 years ago.
it still has an effect on me today, so much so i gave the warning in the title.
this is because one of the things drilled into me, was that its far worse to lead a member of the flock away.
Welcome!!!
Parting questions: why is it that society loves scientists when they can find something to substantiate 607 but hate the same ones for carbon dating dinosaurs?
Yeah, that always made me wonder too.
They use good, reliable scientific data when it suits their purpose, but when it defeats them, those damn scientists are satans little helpers.
i have been on message boards for years, not so much former witness boards, but political or even just general topics.
in so doing, something always happens and i wonder if i am the only one who finds this annoying.. you type something, perhaps a topic or a response and you don't think it is all that important to check all spelling and make sure grammar is perfect.
after all, it's not school anymore and we are not being graded.
I've done that as well. Look back at my errors and think oh shit!
The only thing that would or does concern me is if the spelling or grammar error changes the meaning of what I'm trying to get across. Then I would probably go back and edit or post another comment to clarify.
Udder thenn dat don werry.
a few months ago my jw sister emailed me out of the blue asking for me to suggest a good telescope for her little girl (about 12, but i'm not sure).
my niece has had a strong interest in science since she was very little and my sister is trying to encourage her.
if you are wondering, yes, my sister and her jw husband do shun me... so basically she got the info she needed and then disappeared again.
Elsewhere,
I do know that at Last years district convention, there was a talk that included this skit:
A young boy was talking to his father re: a party that was coming up that was being given by another family in the hall.
This party had all the makings of a birthday party, however, they called it something like "a special day" for so and so, but it was most definitely Not a b-day party.
Ok, well, after several scriptures, the boy's father helps the boy to see that it would be wrong to go.
Anyway, shortly after this, I was in service with a pretty interesting car group. We were talking about the convention. I was pretty interested in this whole non-birthday party thing and raised the question. The brother/elder who was driving and his wife stayed dead silent and the topic was dropped before I ever got an answer. I kinda saw them look at each other out of the corner of their eyes.
I couldn't help but think, that the whole thing might also have been in reference to the fact that several JW families have family days to "replace" Christmas.
Hope things work out with your sister.
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this is brilliant!!
telemarketer counter-script
I remember one time at a da they were talking about witnessing to telemarketers and salesmen...
Well,
I tried it.
It works.
They can't get off the phone fast enough.
I suppose now, you could just ask them if they've accepted Jesus as their Saviour. (no offense to Christians intended)
Now, I don't get any more calls.
when i told my mom and dad that i did not believe in the truth, i was jumping into unknown territory.
it has just never happened before.
now my parents are trying harder than ever to bring me back into the ranks.
When I told my mom and dad that I did not believe in the truth,
Ok, this is what you need to keep in mind.
Some of the questions they raised were more in re: to the Bible itself. That would be a different topic, imo.
You need to show them why you don't want to be a dub any longer.
That's where things like the UN, dates, abuse and flip flopping all come in.
Don't beat yourself up in trying to prove the bible wrong, at this point. You need to show substantial evidence why you don't want to be a witness any longer.
Many of the answers might just be in the library of your kh.
Many of the different publications referred to by those sites that are there to aid your exit might very well be in your parents kh.
Your relationship with god is personal. Your knowledge of the bible will increase over time, as will your personal thoughts and philosophy.
You can't come to a conclusion on that in a week.
I have to add....
The posts in this thread have been awesome!
blessings!
every time i went to a meeting, book study, or whatever, the great majority of people looked as if they were truly happy to be a jw.
their smiles looked genuine.
they seemed to love talking to each other.. i, on the other hand, wasn't really happy to be at the meetings.
Did I enjoy being a witness???
No.
Raising 2 kids and kicking my ass to get us to the kh (my husband is not a witness), only to be made to feel like I wasn't doing enough?
No, I can honestly say I didn't enjoy that.
There were certain friendships that I enjoyed and that I miss, but I didn't enjoy being a witness.
i remember when i started studying with the witnesses back in 1987, two brothers sitting at a table in a restaurant during morning field service break told me that i was a genious.
i asked them why they would say such a thing?.
they said, "because you were able to see what others didn't see".... what they were refering to was that i, like every other witness, found the truth, where as the vast majority of people were lost in false beliefs and in the wrong religion.. i was just starting out as a dub, so they were encouraging me with nice words.. well, i guess that there are many geniuses here, since many found their way out of the watchtower.... .
Hey guys....
I remember virtually an Entire congregation heading to a local Coney Island, getting a full course breakfast meal and lingering for nearly an hour!!!
I think, if I'm not mistaken there were those that actually Counted the time! Saying it was a Silent Witness!!!
Seriously.
On the other hand, at a completely different cong. They took turns getting out for bath and went through drive through's for coffee and brought their own snacks/lunches.
Shheeeesh. Always the extreme with them peoples.